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William John Sutton's avatar

ugh.....and so much of this advice had nothing to do with 'Godly' wisdom. If you step back and really evaluate, every bit of it was MAN's will and MAN's purposes, to follow worldly plans. I was one of those people that fought back many times. I lost my job and could not find any work making close to what I made. We simply could not pay our bills and prepared to file for bankruptcy and give up our home. Leaders tried to pressure me that I should not do so. They of course couldn't provide me with an alternative. Just don't do it. This resulted in me raising my very loud Army voice and booming at them in untold ways. Of course, I was the problem lol. And another time they tried to pressure me into setting a numerical goal of how many people I would bring to church; I looked at them and plainly stated I would not. I laid out the many crises that the group I had was leading were dealing with (it was BAD, grief, abuse, divorce, etc.), and I said, I will make sure these people get through the week and hopefully they come to church. Again, they tried to make me out to be a bad person, but as usual, the stubborn autistic in me would not be moved, and could out scripture them. How I wasn't kicked out back then lol

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Lori's avatar

This brings so much to my mind. The bullying sessions. The many times I let the church make life decisions for me, and the times I put my foot down.

One instance in particular: I was pregnant and we were “asked” (told) to move to a new city. We refused and our “stubbornness” was blamed on me. The minister told me he wanted to come over and talk with us, and I agreed, but he showed up with three or four other uninvited people, and we had a bullying session in my living room before we kicked them out. Fast-forward several months, our four-month-old son had a very rare, life-threatening condition, and the doctor who was the leading expert in the country on that condition was right there, living and practicing in the town that we had refused to leave.

When we did decide on our own to move cities in 2016, we felt like we had to talk to the church leaders in both our current church and new church. We had been conditioned that way. We weren’t asking for permission, but still wanted their blessing on our decision. This was silly.

When our family faced a major crisis in 2020, we were actually seeking input and support from our church “family,” but events led to another multi-participant bullying session, after which I had a nervous breakdown and suffered a health crisis.

The result of all of that is that I am now fiercely independent and private. We eventually left the church in the aftermath of what happened in 2020.

No more bullying sessions! I will never again sit where two or more are gathered, and the focus is me, my family, or my life decisions.

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